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[temetnosce]

I'm deeply concerned about the new rules on pillowfort, the fact that they banned an artist already, the use of the words "good faith" and "bad faith" in their discussion (good faith specifically is one of the terms we have issue with in the Article 13 situation), the precedent it sets and the arguments happening in the comments. Oh, and all the people who seem more offended that people are disrespecting the staff/the beta than the nature of the site's response to these issues.

As an example: If they want to get an app in the app store, they're gonna have to play by exactly the same rules, and this is an example of the actions they're going to take when they need to change them. It doesn't bode well.

Do go and read Dreamwidth's policy explained here. Note Denise's way of responding to those issues, with the experience of years of discussing and policing those issues.

I am leaving tumblr because I stand with the community and I stand with artists. If Pillowfort is going to treat artists just as unprofessionally based on the content they're producing, and on a whim, then I can't justify going there either. Which is frustrating af because people seem determined to go. Twitter offered no reprieve. If anything the influx of new users only made the wankstorm more profound and it's an even worse place to be than it was before.

Also I can barely load pillowfort, so... Guess I'm resolved. Dreamwidth or bust.

Comments

[li_izumi]

I'm still hedging my bets; i've got blogs on both, will be cross-posting on both for the time being. There are things i like better about one over the other; neither are perfect.

[lurea]

I agree. I've gotten pillowfort to load...like twice... and there's constant lag. Supposedly Pillowfort is by fans for fans, but unless those fans are professional enough to understand how to run a business then that's no guarantee it will even survive long enough to have those problems...

As for that banning and change to the TOS... UGH. I am just throwing my hands up in frustration. If that's an example of how they deal with fandom then They Do Not Get It!! Fan art of fictional characters is not child porn. Fanfiction of fictional characters is not child porn. And Denise is *right on* when she talks about how discussions of porn are too often hidden ways of controlling the sexuality and sexual expression of women/LGBT+/others.

[hit_the_books]

All I know at the moment is that this is making organising for fan creation events a pain in the arse.

I've setup Dreamwidth for everything I run and Pillowfort bar one (waiting on an invite).

The Saturday before Tumblr BS kicked off, I'd just co-launched the latest round of the SPN Dystopia Bang and the first ever round of Check, Please! Kink Bingo. And none of this is helping.

We've got whole communities fragmenting and the ability to signal boost reduced by quite a bit.

[nellerie]

Thank you for this, I agree. Most people seem to think that disagreeing to these rules means being a pedophile and I've been quiet about it on twitter because of this.
While I would be happy to never, ever in my life ever see any art of anime children in sexual poses I don't condone censorship... and the explanation of the rule (and the fact they banned someone BEFORE that rule) is just so... weird. I don't know. I feel pretty good on here although the problem here is that you can't just be online... you have to INTERACT so it's kind of hard to do it for 5 minutes while you're on a break. But it's definitely friendlier and more professional than PF.

[lustyshipper]

Well I for one am really glad you're here, I hope we can both call this place Home. I'm still bitter about tumblr because I had mine for 3 years. :(